Sick puppies; They act drunk, dizzy, sort of confused, but not lethargic, accept food but not water?
We have four puppies in total, and their mother. They have the run of our 65 acres during the day and stay inside at night. They’re the sweetest damn things in the world, and though we still need to find a home for at least one more, they’re going on about four months of age now I believe, maybe younger. They have NOT yet had their shots.
I went outside this morning to check on them because my mother (I’m 19 but I still live with my parents,) said she called for them at the back of our house but they didn’t come, so I checked on the front porch and they were all there.
Being odd for them, three of them were sleeping over on their blankets while only one of them came to me right away. The others woke when I went outside though and slowly but surely made their way almost tiredly over to me. Now true enough whenever they first wake up they act like this anyway, so I sort of brushed it off at first. The biggest one was being a big teddy bear – he’s usually very sweet but maybe not so tiredly affectionate and I took it just as he was still tired from sleeping so I pulled him into my lap and he lay on my arm. While the other one similar in size but much fuzzier and sweeter and quieter, lay down behind me quietly — even though normally he jumps all over me — and the other one, the littlest, the runt and about half the size of the rest of them, slowly came to me as well and lay at my other side only trying half-heartedly to get my attention.
I sat with them for a few minutes, it was their regular socializing time, I sit with them for a few hours and give each of them equal amounts of attention, and suddenly the one behind me, Yuuyuu, began to whimper so I turned to watch him, concerned, pushing Chato/BB off of my lap, the biggest one. Yuuyuu got up and stumbled down our porch steps and into some tall grass — still close, mind you, not trying to hide or anything – and he began to dry heave. The others all got curious so they ran over to investigate, and I followed suit, leaning down and giving him love and telling him it was alright as he vomited up a large amount of what I’m assuming is his partially digested dog food, a good handful of brown gunk and a few little chunks of chewed kibble, none of it watery at all, very thick. I sat and pet him while he recovered from the effort, and very slowly he gradually collapsed into a heap as I continued to pet him and scratch his neck.
I was concerned at this point, they were definitely acting funny, and gradually I came to realize they were all wobbling. Kuma, the smallest, Chato, the largest, and Yuuyuu, the quiet one, would all wobble a little when standing OR sitting. Yuuyuu is the worst, he can’t get his footing very well when he moves around, and when he tries to go back up the steps he misses repeatedly and collapses, and he realizes and acknowledges that there’s something wrong, while Chato, the big man he is, seems to think nothing is wrong at all, even though I can see plain as day when he’s standing there staring at me and wobbling. Meanwhile, Kuma, she’s acting much quieter than she usually does, much more removed, and I’ll watch her sit and stare at me and wobble too. They all do it, Yuu is the worst, Kuma isn’t nearly as bad as the others.
However, I have one other one, Fatso, who is short like Kuma but girthier, and he is PERFECTLY FINE. He is exhibiting ABSOLUTELY NO symptoms and is running around getting into things like a normal puppy should, while the others all collapse on the ground with huffs and lay down tiredly and start to nap. Their mother is also perfectly fine, she’s actually smaller than Chato and Yuuyuu.
I’m concerned because, it is absolutely possible they have gotten into something, we live in the middle of 65 acres. I’m almost positive it is not anti-freeze poisoning, we have none of it anywhere nearby, and we do not put out poison for any animals, we know what it can do to our dogs, and we’re so far from neighbors they’re hardpressed to get poison from there too!
Before people start yelling at me, at the moment, I have NO way to get them to the vet! I have no vehicle, both of my parents are gone, and I have phones that do NOT connect long distance so I cannot contact them! And I’m almost sure that 911 will get absolutely upset if I call!
I want to know NOW if there’s anything I should do besides trying to get them to drink plenty of fluids! Should I try to induce vomiting?? Or should I try and get them to drink as much water as possible to get them to flush it from their systems?? My parents could be gone until very late, so I’m not sure if I can get them the help they need in time!
So, OVERALL SYMPTOMS:
-Acting drunk, wobbling when standing OR sitting;
-Accepting food, very healthy appetite, but NOT accepting water!;
-NOT lethargic, very attentive, sleepy but not sleeping!;
-Itchy! When I scratch them, they join me with their o
My parents may be gone, but in case of emergencies for MYSELF I call 911. PRETTY damn sure a 911 operator is going to laugh me off the line if I call about some SICK PUPPIES. Especially out in the mountains where there are “legitimate problems,” as important as these animals are, not many ambulances are going to escort three sick puppies to the vet. I’m not an idiot. *I* personally believe they should absolutely, but I know that they don’t because animals aren’t as important as humans in most sick human worlds!
I must AGAIN stress the lack of a long distance phone line, I cannot contact their vet. I CAN contact neighbors, but most of them don’t give a shit about us (because of our dogs! Go figure!!) or they’re never home. I AM going to try and contact them, because you’re right it is an issue that hopefully someone like them could solve if they just had a little freaking heart, but they seem to hate dogs so I doubt it’s an option!
I would induce vomiting to avoid any kind of po
I would induce vomiting to avoid any kind of poisoning – in antifreeze poisoning cases, the only way to give them a chance is to make them puke the antifreeze back out!
And you’re absolutely wrong! There is no Emergency Vet within about fifty miles of my house; I live way up in the mountains, the only EMERGENCY vet is two towns away! We DO have a vet here but they’re only open ridiculous hours! It’s not an option!
Believe me; I LOVE these dogs, I would CARRY THEM to the vet if I had that as a realistic option, but I DON’T!
For now, the only choice I seem to have is bathe them in cool water and try and get them to drink! Because nobody is bothering to READ my DETAILS and give me ACTUAL ADVICE instead of YELLING AT ME.
I may be nineteen, BUT I’M NOT A COMPLETE IDIOT!!
I’m really sorry for your dilemma and hope everything works out OK for your puppies. If you have some Gatorade or Pedialyte handy maybe they would drink that? Or make some sugar water for them? You can use the Google phone to make long distance calls from your computer http://www.google.com/chat/voice/ to call a vet and see what they say. Or there is the pet poison helpline at 800-213-6680 they might be able to tell you if these symptoms are from a known poison.
That’s all the ideas I have. Wish there was more.
Possible rat poison ingestion by dog?
I am in Europe for a while and brought my dog to France. In a city in southern France, I walked him by some trash cans. He stuck his head down, I thought to sniff the trash can, but then I heard a “crunch” noise and looked down.
Behind the trash can, there was an aluminum pan of what looked like dog food but it had a gel-like syrup spread over the top in lines. I think the gel substance was some type of poison, maybe rat poison.
I tried to get the piece of food out of my dog’s mouth but he already swallowed it.
I read about rat poison on the Internet and he is still within the 72 hour window of time before symptoms would show up. There was also a rat bait box further behind the pan of food.
Does anyone know if the “food” in the pan could also be rat poison? He did not get into the part with the gel on it because I looked at the pan and that was undisturbed and further back.
I am planning to take him to a vet even though I am in a foreign country to see if he needs vitamin K supplementation. However, does anyone know if the dog-food part was likely rat poison or if they were trying to poison wild dogs somehow??
Whether the intent is to poison rats or wild dogs, either way, do you really believe it’s worth the risk to guess which it might be? Either one is deadly. And, regardless of what anyone here may tell you they “THINK” might happen to pacify your worries (from a distance of approximately 9 to 12 hours away from that very trash can by air), that doesn’t mean that’s what “IS”.
Also…rat poison begins breaking down the clotting factor in about 36 hours…not 72. Depending on how much was ingested and the weight of your dog will determine how long that progression will take before your dog actually reaches the point of bleeding to death internally. And it is a slow, painful and unnecessary death!
So…to the vet ASAP for a PT test and Vitamin K shots/medications until his PT testing comes back as clear!
my healthy dog died suddenly, post mortem found nothing but healthy organs?? Suspected posioning?
My dog chill died two days ago. My mother left the house for two hours and left her in the yard. When she returned, she found chill dead behind a pot plant where she would frequently play. My dog was healthy, full of energy, happy with no symptoms of sickness in the previous hour my mum had seen her before she died. We were suspicious because two weeks earlier, our cat just randomly lay on the lawn and also died quietly. We thought it was due to old age, but there is no way Chilli would just lay down and die outside – since she was a princess house dog, so we suspect poisoning. We have had a post mortem done by the vet – they found that all her internal organs were in perfect health. No bite marks found on her body either – so that rules out snake or spider bites.She had remnants of her dog food in her belly, but due to the lapse of time they were unable to take samples for poison, bloods etc. My mum found no trace of vomit around Chill when she was found dead. I want to know – if there are any poisons that trigger death in cats or dogs, that leave no traceable symptoms? as we have arsehole neighbours responsible for previous cruelty and disdain toward our pets.
You don’t have any proof to think your dog has been poisoned. I am sorry for your loss but don’t go blaming the neighbors without proof.
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